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Discussion Title: Baby borrowers
Created by: gail Created on: Tue, 06/17/2008 - 12:35pm. I know, I said I wouldn't be back, and I'm not, but I wanted to reach everybody I could about this issue. I sent this e-mail to everybody on my address list, and then I thought of all of you.
I read yesterday in the paper about a TV show that is going to begin airing on June 25 on NBC. I was really upset about the show and I wanted to invite you to join me if you happen to agree with me.
I'm sending this to everyone on my address list, so if you don't remember who I am, Sorry!
Just wanted you to know, as quickly as possible, that I will regretfully end my 45 year long relationship with what has been a fine network if you air a single episode of baby borrowers. That you have condoned removing children for 72 hours from their primary caregivers is abominable. Your purported admirable motive blinded you to participating in human slavery and abuse.
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Replied: 6/21/2008 2:32pm.
You are actually making me really interested in watching! Thanks!
Replied: 6/21/2008 5:43pm.
I tried to figure out a way that NBC was not like Hitler. It is entirely possible that their program developers were ignorant of child development. But Junie G said there was controversy in Britain so that is hard for me to believe.
Research the Milgram experiment. I can't get a site that just shows the video. so google it.
that's M i l g r a m.
I'm misquoting, but the only thing necessary for evil to continue is for good men to do nothing.
I just googled that, it's
Some say that English philosopher Edmund Burke said, ‘The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
Auschwitz, Abu Ghraib, Boise. I know my rhetoric is inflamed. Like I've said before, it's like watching people park the car with the children inside on the railroad track. I look like a crazy woman? I don't care! We've got 4 days, Only 2 of them are business days, And then somebody will start making money off of this. And if they make enough, they'll do it again. If you watch the show after you research this that is, of course your choice. Informed choice, not ignorance.
And Jothegrill, there is no fanatic as passionate as the reformed sinner. I said, been there, done that. I cannot be less passionate than I am. Your compassion is as much a result of your experience as my passion is of my experience
I wish that your mother had had someone to validate her gut feeling that she should find a way to take the whole family with her when she left you behind. Nowadays, they have Ronald MacDonald houses, and they have room for whole families. I bet she had that gut feeling, I did when I made a similar decision to send my five year old to her Grandparents for an extended visit.
Replied: 6/21/2008 4:26pm.
I think we a forgetting how much babies learn in a short period of time. A show like baby borrowers may seem unfair, but it teaches those kids to adapt and improve. for all they know they could be on the street in a couple years..
Replied: 6/21/2008 6:49pm.
Gail....get a life and educate yourself about child development. Go Baby Borrowers. Can't wait until June 25! Way to go NBC!
Replied: 6/21/2008 6:52pm.
Gail,
I don't know anything about this show, Baby Borrowers, except what I've read in these posts. I think, despite many people's stance on this issue, "the show must go on" (in NBC's eyes, anyway). This is all about $$$, entertainment, and ratings. You can object all you want, but honestly, I don't think it'll make a difference. There are too many people out there that find this kind of programing entertaining, and regardless of it's content or message, they will still watch it. It's unfortunate that that's what society has amounted to today, but this is what it is. My only suggestion is for you to live your life the way you see fit, and stick to what you believe in. Don't waste your time on frivolous programing such as this. Let others live their lives the way they want to. That's their business. If there are repercussions due to these people's actions, they have to face them. It's sad that it comes to that, but the reality is that it does. You can't fix every situation, and it wld be very difficult to change people's thinking. We are only a small make-up of the population, and there are many people that disagree w/ you or just don't care. This is a far bigger hurdle to get over, especially in the short time we have before the show airs. Your intention is a good one, but unfortunately, I think it's a hopeless effort. I don't mean to discourage you, and by all means continue w/ your efforts. However, realistically speaking, I don't think you can stop this show from airing. Sorry, that's just my opinion.
Replied: 6/21/2008 9:44pm.
I just had another great idea!!! If you "loaned" your children to NBC, and they do have long-term emotional damage, you can SUE NBC. Even if you signed some kind of waiver, you can't waive your child's right to sue. And I agree, it is all about money, but somebody managed to stop the broadcast of OJ's special. And that cost more for those guys to film than baby borrowers, I bet.
NBC has either shut down some of their message boards, or they have specifically blocked my access. Either way, they are taking notice. Please guys, do me a favor. If you are wise enough to know that you wouldn't let your kids be part of this, please protect the children of other families, who may suffer because their parents aren't as wise as you. What this season's parents did was legal, and should remain legal, but it wasn't good for their children. NBC exploited helpless people. I really hope they don't make money off of it.
The more people who raise their voice (sorry for the Holocaust reference, Jothegrill) the sooner the camps will be closed.
On a selfish note, if we can prevent the broadcast of the first episode I get to watch the OLYMPICS!!!!
Replied: 6/22/2008 6:00pm.
From a news report of a preview "party" in Denver, I learned that when a child woke up in a house with no teenagers, the children were comforted by a nanny. Another stranger. Don't know if this was a nap or the middle of the night. This was cited as if it made the distress OK. The adults, once again, knew the child was safe.
So, my kid wakes up in a strange house where he's been with strangers and yet another stranger shows up. I can't even comment on that, cause I try not to use those words. And I can't "share" my reaction with NBC, cause they've blocked my address (which is their right). Could some of you share your reaction with NBC?
Are there any of you who know a nurse who works on a pediatric ward? It would be interesting to hear that perspective. And they talk alot about thetr being nannies on the set, but they haven't mentioned a child psychologist or child psychiatrist. Hmmmm.
Replied: 6/22/2008 11:01am.
Sballvr why don't you tell us all about your vast knowledge of child development. I am sure we are all enthralled and can't wait.
Replied: 6/22/2008 12:59pm.
I agree that they should not take these kids from there parents but I also think it is a good learning experiance for these newbes.
Replied: 6/22/2008 2:49pm.
So, you are so worked up about this show and compare NBC to Hitler, but you're going to watch the Olympics... which is on NBC?
That is fantastic.