Hi,

Hopefully, someone can give me some feedback.

My son, Jacob, is in the first grade.  He will be 7 on August 15, so he's one of the youngest in his class.  He has been struggling all year with reading, which often affects other subjects.  He goes for special reading help with the learning specialist and has made some very slow progress.  He is reading at like a "primer" level and to me, is starting to progress forward to the next level very soon. 

His teacher really feels that he should be held back in first grade.  She says he has some maturity issues that really show.  She constantly has to keep him on track and keep him working at the tasks.  I asked her if she felt it was an attention problem.  She feels it is not because he does not have that "spacey" look when not being attentive.  She does not think he's exhibiting symptoms of like ADD. She thinks it's a maturity problem and that he might be just shutting off the lesson because he feels overwhelmed by it.  I ask him about school and he says it's easy....his work is often rushed.  When he doesn't feel like it..he just writes "mumble-jumble". 

I don't know what to do.  Part of me feels he needs to stay back another year....part of me says that would hurt him too much. 

Any ideas?

Jeanne

mom-Jacob 6 and Julia 9

Hi there,

 

my son is a first grader and he does well. However, I had him in private school that was advanced.  What I wanted to say though was, before you take some teachers advive. You should consult a qualified doctor, who may be able to assess the problem.  Sometimes teachers can bully you into believing they have all the answers.

My daughter just turned 6 years old on June 22, 2007.  Last year she was in kindergarten and was having a very difficult time.  The teacher told me at the end of the school year that she highly recommended for her to stay back.  I was in agreement with her, however with the pressure of my mother I reluctantly decided to move her forward.   During the summer months we had a tutor helping her try and get caught up.  She is now in a new school in 1st grade.  The teacher spoke with me the other day and stating that my daughter is extemely behind and very  imature.  Her current teacher also agrees that she should go back to kindergarten.  I then decided to have her put back since it still is so early in the school year.  I wrote an letter to the Principal requesting that she be put back into kindergarten and advised her of both her teachers statements.  I cannot believe that the Principal is not in agreement with us.  My daughters teacher did warn me that their Principal is totally against keeping kids back in school.  I myself was big for my age but they kept me back in kindergarten.  I am so glad that I was held back.  I don't want my daughter to have to suffer from year to year trying to keep up in school.  SHOULD IT REALLY BE UP TO THE PRINCIPALS OF THE SCHOOL ON WHETHER OR NOT YOUR CHILD STAYS BACK OR NOT?  Shouldn't that be up to the teachers that spend many hours with our children 5 days a week on whether they should be held back.  If anyone has any suggestions on what I should do I would love to hear it.  I have my mind set on keeping her back. 

First of all, I really cannot believe that this particular question is STILL being discussed.  It is such a no brainer!!

Secondly, With regard to the reply from "dori," who appears to distrust teachers and believes a qualified doctor can answer this better for you...let me say, that in our town, GOOD qualified doctors, THE ONES WHO ARE WORTH THEIR MD DEGREES, in our town refer these questions to the teachers who really do have the answers!! jeesh!!

I had my boy repeat Kindergarten, then I pulled him out of school totally in 5th grade, had him attend the Orchestra class in 6th grade, added math in 7th grade, History in 8th grade, and in 9th grade he was back to school for the full day.  Now he is in 10th grade and doing just fine.  I don't know what state you are in, but most states have provisions for home-schooling your child.  If your child is in a public school, the school is probably funded based on how many students attend.  If your principal is aware that you are considering home-schooling your child and withdrawing him from the school, he may be a little more flexible about changing grades.  Actually, you are legally responsible already for seeing to it that your child is educated.  There is  a criminal offense called educational neglect (not kidding!) in my state.

To G. Hanson:  Thank you for your response.  I have very good news!  I had a meeting with 6 other people from my childs school (her teacher, the principal, assistant principal,  speech & language therapist, school psychologist and then yet another teacher from the school).  I did feel a bit taken back that so many people had to attend the meeting that was just suppose to be between the principal and her teacher.  I stood my ground and stated that my daughter is struggling so much that she has just given up.   My daughters teacher along with the school's psychologist were in agreement with me that she should go back into kindergarten.  The others were not so agreeable.    They all looked over her past and present records which most definitely indicate that she is very behind.   To make a long story short,  to my surprize the prinicpal of the school decided to go ahead and put her back into kindergarten!   A couple of the reasons she decided to were , 1.  that my daughter has just given up and does not show any interest anymore in learning and  2. she talked with her spouse who is a psychologist one night about this whole situation.  Her spouse indicated that it would be much better for her to go back to kindergarten now (October , 2007) then to be held back in 1st grade after she had completed the 1st grade school year.  I was so relieved that they decided to put her back.  She started kindergarten on 10/22/07 and is doing just fine.  Maybe now she will be able to help others in the class instead of needing help herself constantly by others and the teacher.  I would love to see her be a leader and not so much a follower.   She is already showing signs that she is interested in learning again.     When I got the news that she was going back into kindergarten I almost started crying.    I am so happy now that she has the opportunity to be in an environment where she does not feel completely lost.  God Bless

 

Hello Jeanne:  I am interested in hearing how it turned out with your son.  My daughter does not appear to have attention problems.  She was just struggling so much in her class that she lost interest in learning.  My son on the other hand was diagnosed  with ADD.  He is 11 years old now and still struggles a bit with his attentions problems.  At least we found out what the problem was when he was very young.   It really helps to know what the problem is first.  Then you will be able to move on from there and get the right help that will be needed if necessary. 

 

 

Dkeyes

We're kind of in the same boat as you, but my son is in Kindergarten and has been reading for 2 years now.  His teacher wanted to put him in the first grade but now we want to hold off because of his maturity level, he's a very emotional child. He likes things done a certain way, (OCD) If things are not the way he was showed it the first time, he usually has a hard time dealing with it. But if they do hold him back another year, you have to make sure that he is challenged a lil more since he'll be learning stuff he already knows.  Just make sure he doesn't get bored with school because then it will be very hard to get him back on track.

this is a very difficult decision that you are ultimately best suited to answer (what does your "gut" say?) but I will tell you my "hindsight".  My son had a stroke at 3 and we were told that with speech and occupational therapy he would be "fine!"  He is also young for his grade (July b'day) but he was so anxious and seemed so bright, we started him in K as soon as he was eligible.  Long story short - he spent most of the first thru 6th grade in Resource (sp ed) for ELA, was diagnosed ADD, inattentive at the age of 10 (only after we had him tested outside the school system to determine why he would fail the state-mandated tests after making A's/B's in class all year).  We can now see (that we couldn't back then) that he has matured slower than his peers and, though he probably would've still needed extra help, his self-esteem maybe wouldn't have suffered so much along the way.  He is now in high school (all regular classes) and is doing quite well in some subjects, but really struggling with the math/language classes. 

The question you have to answer is would you possibly regret it (more) if you hold him back now or if you send him on?  In retrospect, our journey would've been smoother had we held him back in 1st grade or K.

Good luck!

dsrm

 

I happened on this Web site completely by accident....and now after reading a few "stories" must jump in....as a mother AND  educator. Our son, now 30 years old, is an August birthday. He was NOT retained in First Grade. He had an OK second grade year. His teacher thought it a good idea for him to repeat 2nd grade!!!  He was thrillled! (and so were we!)He had a great year!!! It gave him the time he needed to mature, gain confidence and improve his academic skills. When he graduated from High School, he informed his Dad and I that he was going to college, but needed some time! He stayed at home, worked and we planned the where, what and hows of his secondary education. Long story short...he is a quite the bussiness man, AND  also has the gift of glassblowing!  He fell in love with this "Art" in college and  is quite gifted and sucessful....in two fields!!!  Go Figure!!!  Just Look what a little time....for growing, learning, confidence building, mastering skills and learning what "gifts" you have been given!!!! IT's not a race!!!  Thanks for listening...hope it helps!!! They are our future!!!!  Mom & Teacher

That is such a hard decision to make.  As a first grade teacher for many years I find that parents are often struggling with that decision.  I like to explain it like this.  School is much like building a house. First you have the base, (kindergarten) then you start the foundation (first grade)  You don't want any cracks or missing blocks in the foundation because it will not be able to hold the house as it gets built.  When you are missing the foundational skills of first grade much of the knowledge learned later is difficut and often not able to be understood.  Even if your son is ready socially, the academic pressure of the higher grades can effect his social growth later on.  I have had many students who have been kept back a year, and they have had great success.  Considering hiring a tutor for the summer, or having your son attend summer schools are more great ways to keep the reading and learning going.  I hope this helps you in your decision.