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Discussion Title: Repeat first grade???
Created by: mom2julesj... Created on: Wed, 05/09/2007 - 3:22pm. Hi, Hopefully, someone can give me some feedback. My son, Jacob, is in the first grade. He will be 7 on August 15, so he's one of the youngest in his class. He has been struggling all year with reading, which often affects other subjects. He goes for special reading help with the learning specialist and has made some very slow progress. He is reading at like a "primer" level and to me, is starting to progress forward to the next level very soon. His teacher really feels that he should be held back in first grade. She says he has some maturity issues that really show. She constantly has to keep him on track and keep him working at the tasks. I asked her if she felt it was an attention problem. She feels it is not because he does not have that "spacey" look when not being attentive. She does not think he's exhibiting symptoms of like ADD. She thinks it's a maturity problem and that he might be just shutting off the lesson because he feels overwhelmed by it. I ask him about school and he says it's easy....his work is often rushed. When he doesn't feel like it..he just writes "mumble-jumble". I don't know what to do. Part of me feels he needs to stay back another year....part of me says that would hurt him too much. Any ideas? Jeanne mom-Jacob 6 and Julia 9
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Replied: 5/18/2007 3:54pm.
Hi sisters (who's 9 now) has always been overly mature and sometimes I think he's going the other route to be different. hehehehe
He often thinks he can't do things on his own.
Thanks,
Jeanne
Replied: 5/18/2007 4:03pm.
Your son sounds exactly like my son. Perhaps we can be support for each other during this period?
We, too, had a meeting with the teacher, learning specialist and principal. We've also had a speech and language evaluation done. He will be receiving help for expressive language problems beginning in the fall.
Thanks for the reassurance. We have officially decided to hold him back and have informed the school of our decision. He will be placed with the other first grade teacher in the fall.
Jeanne
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Replied: 5/19/2007 7:27am.
I also have(had He's 24 now) a child who was kept back in 1st grade because of maturity issues!! we moved during the summer to another school district he was in the school 2 weeks when the teacher called and asked if they could test him for Learning disabilities, he was(is) Dylexic with hand eye issues He was put onto special education classes and even though it was a rough road and was left back 2 more times he graduated.
Please ask the school to test him they don't want to do this because it costs money but insist, My son was not inmature he was having problems and was acting out.
Replied: 5/21/2007 1:00am.
my birthday is in november so i was always the youngest not to mention the smallest in my class. i never got along with the children in my class because i was always maturing later then they were. i would always play with the children in the grade below me. i was trouble in school not becuase i wasn't smart enough but becuase i wasn't mature enough to be in the grade i was and my schooling suffered for it. it wasn't till grade 11 that i finally started catching up to the children in my class my parent's had the chance to hold me back a grade but they decided not to. now years later i am 21 and they have told me that they should have held me back for maturity reasons. i hope this gives you a little bit of insight
Replied: 5/22/2007 11:50pm.
I noticed what you have going on my daughter is a summer baby she is in second grade now but is one of the younger ones she has struggled since grade k this year i made them test her they say she is fine no learning dis or anything she reads on first grade 6 months level and her math is just now getting to a second grade level i have struggled with the hard choice but have decided we have had enough she will be in second next year again with the same teacher you see children have diff step stones and a brain only dev at a cert pace her doc says that she is not behind much for her age but for her grade she is she even knows it she told me the work is to hard and that she was not wanting to go into 3rd if he is having probs in reading he will start having it in math as well i know she does great with the adding and subtraction but it is the reading what to do in math and the problems that have the words i really believe a child gets more behind if they have not had time to catch up most schools frown at holding them back until 3rd because they say EOG will catch them i kept after them and got my way she will get the chance to be caught up and maybe be a kid because all the time in past out of school we have been doing more to catch up she has had no time to be her
Replied: 5/23/2007 9:43am.
Hi,
My daughter is 10 and I went through the same thing as you except my daughter was in second grade...She was having the same problems as your son. The teachers told me that she was very immature for age. They had been telling me that since she started school. She couldn't read very well let alone write her name. They did a dyslixia test on her to rule that out. and then they did another test to see if she had a reading disabilty and she did. She started going to resource classes when she started 1st grade. She had resource classes in math and reading. That was the best thing. When she got into second grade she still had a very low reading level which was the beginning of first grade reading level. When she finished second grade her reading level was at the end of first grade. So she was always a year behind. The teachers suggested that we hold her back and she would repeat the second grade again. We contimplated holding her back. We prayed alot. And we knew she did not want to repeat the same grade knowing that her friends would prbably make fun of her. But for her benefit and the best thing for her was to hold her back That was the best thing we ever did. She blossomed after that. She still continued doing the resource classes. She is now in 3rd grade and happy to say not in resource anymore. Her maturity level has skyrocketed. She just passed on to the 4th grade all on her own. If you have any questions please let me know. And I hope this helps a little.
Jackie
Replied: 5/23/2007 9:57am.
This is a tough call. However, you may need to take him to the doctor's to get evaluated for ADD. A teacher is not qualified to diagnoise a student of any kind... Just because he doesn't have the 'spacey' look doesn't mean he doesn't have ADD. My eldest (15 1/2) has ADHD and was diagnoised by a neurologist - that's the best route. I have had the same thoughts - my youngest is 9 and her b-day is August as well and my gut was telling me to hold her back and not start kindergarten until she was 6 - I really wish I would have done that.. Now she is struggling in 4th grade and homework is a battle. I taught 5th grade for a few years and I know next year is going to be (*&(*&*. Now, I'm in a situation that would be devasting if I held her back; I'm still thinking about it. I know statically children that are held back have some issues later on in their school career; (However, with positive reinforcement at home indicating that it would be better for him to learn the material again) Maybe by telling him that sometimes adults have to do over's and that it's ok - however, holding him back may be the answer - perhaps the teacher/school can recommend that he does 1/2 his day in 1st grade and the other 1/2 in 2nd. If you are gonig to hold him back, I would definitely do it now... I would also take him to the eye doctor - one that specializes in reading. There could be a problem there - I took my 9 year old and she has convergence insufficiency - her eyes are not focusing together which in turn causes her to read below grade level. Don't delay - go with you gut. With postive reimforcement - all will work out. Good Luck
Replied: 5/24/2007 4:04pm.
i think that getting held back is bull ---- because my little cousin is going through this right now and she thinks it is cool but once she starts getting in high school and stuff she is really going to rethink it over. i really think she is a smart person but i guess that is not what her school thinks :[
Replied: 5/24/2007 7:22pm.
Hi Jeanne,
I am so glad that I helped. Maybe not the decision, because I feel that the decision was yours to make. But just to let you know that there are other people out there that know what you may be going through. I know it helps me to know that my son is not the only one who has problems. And a parent to parent support is always good. Just a little update...it is amazing how resilent (hope that is spelled right?) children are...he has accepted repeating 1st grade and when someone asks him what grade he is in he says first grade one more time just for kicks. So....as traumatic as I thought this would be for him it has turned out not so traumatic. His acceptance has made the decision that much easier. I have started a summer homeschool with him...which is not his most favorite thing..but he does one hour of school work Monday-Friday. I found some little workbooks at Wal-Mart that are just right for his age and grade. Some of it is repeating what he has already learned but we try to make it fun for him. This way he can remember what he has learned...at least a little.
Callie
Replied: 5/29/2007 8:56pm.
I wouldnt ask him what he thinks. I would go with your gut. Really we cant consider ADHD (ADD is not an actual disorder) until the ability to develop selective attention(the abilty to focus on large amounts of info for several hours at a time) is completly developed. That doesnt happen till about 3rd grade or so. Just read to/with him every night and ask questions about life like what soap would be cheaper and so on to help him develop. Do not listen to teachers when they suggest ADHD. To be dignosed your child should have ALWAYS been overwhelmed.(before the age of 4) It should always be evaluated by a professional psychologist or others who study the field. What was your sons class size? If you feel he really needs to be held back...listen to your gut. It will probably help him fit in if he is not as mature as his peers.