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april366

IQ testing

What do people think about IQ testing their kids? I haven't had either of my kids tested - I don't like the idea of them being associated with a number. My daughter is in gifted classes and she has always done very well in school. We encourage her as much as possible, but we also don't want to put unnecessary emphasis on some test. We know she's gifted, why do people think the IQ score is so important?



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JMarcel

Hi April,

I've recently been introduced to different kind of test. It's called SOI which stands for Structure of Intellect. This test measures how one's brain is wired to learn. In other words the doctors (Mary and Robert Meeker) took 26 of the cognitive abilities one would need to have to do well in school and created the test.

A report is generated explaing the child's gifted areas and or areas where more development may be required like visual memory, auditory memory, problem solving, creativity etc.

This test is unbiased and will also guide a person to the most appropriate career paths based on their gifts.

Check it out at www.soisystems.com.

Best,

JMarcel

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starnz

I am a teacher with a Master's Degree in Gifted Education. I taught K-6 gifted for 19 years before our state took away funding for gifted education. I administered many IQ tests and other tests over the years. The IQ test isn't given to label kids with numbers. It is really for the protection of the educational system in the identification of these children who need more than the regular classroom teacher can give them. Some children need the extra research, math, reading, music, etc. that a gifted program offers to enhance the talents the children possess. As a teacher I HAD to have "numbers" to show that the right students were selected. So many parents question schools and teachers -- "Why is so-and-so's child in gifted and mine is not?" I just felt that the numbers protected me and assured the parents of the gifted children that the top students -- and only the top students -- were in the program. I never had any parent refuse an IQ test -- or any other test -- that I needed to make my final selections. I also realize that some children test well but don't work as hard as other children. That's why most gifted programs have an "exit" built in if a child doesn't want to do the work once in the program. Since the number of students selected for a program is based on a percentage of the total number of students within the school, another student is always waiting to "enter" if a child "exits." School districts set up their own criteria for the selection of students into their gifted program. There are some state guidelines to follow, however. Our state requires an IQ test, standardized test scores (by subjects), and teacher recommendation. It is a parent's right to sign the permission slip to allow a child in a gifted program or NOT sign. I loved teaching gifted children the 19 years the state helped with the funding. Currently, I am teaching a regular 5th Grade class, and I am heartsick that we have no program to keep our gifted children thirsting for learning. Even being a gifted teacher, I have a very hard time finding the time in my regular classroom to work the way I need to with these bright children. And, I feel I do more than MANY teachers with the gifted students in my room. There are so many needs to be addressed in a regular classroom, the gifted kids kind of fall by the wayside. This is a terrible thing. All kids, EVEN GIFTED KIDS, need motivating and a guide to keep them on track. I've seen gifted children lose some of their enthusiasm because many concepts being taught in a regular classroom are repetitious to the point of overkill from them. My advice is . . . TAKE CARE OF YOUR GIFTED PROGRAM. Parents need to be vocal with politicians to keep this level of education on the front burners. It HAS to be the parents who are actively involved in a gifted program and in the state's decision-making for our schools. Taking IQ tests should be the least of anyone's worries when educating a gifted student.

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johnmurphy

You said it. Numbers protected you and the system but did nothing for the children. The tests are not accurate and are not sufficient to identify the unique abilitys of children.

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starnz

I agree, John. However in this day and age where lawsuits are so common, I don't know how else a school could protect itself without some kind of back-up evidence. I wish someone would come up with something other than IQ testing. And, let's face it -- some kids just aren't good test-takers but are very bright nonetheless. Those are the ones who fall through the cracks. A lot of our bright kids read more into test questions than most kids, and sometimes they "talk themselves out of" answering the "simple" question correctly. They think there must be more to the question than there actually is.

I DO feel that there needs to be a program with more challenges for gifted students -- we just don't know the best way to get the right kids identified.

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SO

I know schools/districts needed to come up with some kind of point system that will help them to determine who qualifies. They have to have some kind of cut-off point. In our district, it is a combination of IQ (which is now a group test administerd to ALL 2nd graders), parent referral/questionnaire, teacher referral/questionnaire, and state test results. Each section is worth so many points, and if they add up to 15 points or above, they are in the gate program. It doesn't just ride on the IQ score, and I'm sure most would agree, that it is just a number that is a guide, not an absolute, since all kids are so different and will respond to testing differently. I don't get the impression that the schools pay much attention to the number beyond the determining of qualifying. The problem we had with the IQ, is that one day in 3rd grade, my son came home wondering what is IQ was. I thought it was odd that he would even think to ask. He said that one of the kids in his class said his IQ was the highest and gave the number. I couldn't believe that the parent would tell them at that age. I had a hard time convincing my son that it would be best that I waited until he was older, that it was just a number and didn't mean anything, and wasn't near as important as how he chose to use his knowledge. I don't think he would be the kind to use it against anyone, but I just don't see how him knowing at this age would be of any good use.