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junieg

What's happened here

Gee. Been away for some time and didn't recognise these message boards. Why all these blogs. Thought this was about helping each other out, not pushing our private little lives down others throats. Todd, being sick might suck, but isn't it great you've got a nanny to pick up the slack and take care of 'the kid' for you. Thirteen hours sleep is a helluva lot more than us normal 'mere mortals' would get when we were sick. Be thankful. Not being in the least interested in what you are doing with your life [except exploiting children by your choice of brand names] you will be pleased to note that it will be a long time before I venture back to the message boards. Leave some space for people who need the help of others. They are goingh to stop coming on these boards too if you keep up your inane prattle about the inconsequential minutae in your life. 



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Todd Lieman

Junie: Oh, there are so many possible reactions to have to your comments. But, I'll leave it with this: Have a great weekend. You've clearly read way more into the "inconsequential minutae of my life" than was written. By the way - it IS great that we have some part time help to pick up the slack while my wife and I both work full time jobs in order to make ends meet. You're absolutely right - and I am thankful. But, I'm not going to bother getting into any sort of argument with you, as we're all entitled to our opinions. Again, have a great weekend. 

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gail

Hey Junie, great to see you back.  This virtual community is just like a real one, except you can ignore somebody and they don't even have to know it. 

It's a learning experience for us all. I think a lot of us were disconcerted when the blogs showed up, especially me because whoever is in charge didn't tell me how to do one of my own.  The nerve! 

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SnglDad

 Kind of makes one wonder if that was intentional.

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gail

:-D

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stephy

Junie, thanks. You saved me having to make any more comments. Right on girl. Please don't go.

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stephy

Hi Marti, just wondered if it was possible for the blogs to be in an entirely different category. As it is, you go to recent posts and have to go back to another page. When you have finished with a thread, you have to go back through that process again. I guess this only happens though when you are not on as often and interesting things work their way down the list of recent posts because they are pushed there by the blogs. The blogs could come under some sort of general discussions and would be a lot easier for us to ignore.

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junieg

I am not aiming to get into any arguments either. I just don't understand the blog culture where you air your private life in public. I am asking a sincere question when I ask why? What do you get out of telling us all about your home life. Is it instructive. Is it some kind of therapy for you? Will it help all the people who come on here hoping for some help with their problems? Maybe you can help me to understand what YOU get out of it. 

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Todd Lieman

Frankly, the issue isn't about the blogs, it's about the placement of the blogs in the discussion forum. I think there were some good comments (that weren't personal attacks) about separating the blogs from the discussion posts. That makes sense, and, as I understand it, is what the powers-that-be behind the scenes are planning.

What do I get out of it? Well, I don't necessarily do everything with a final eye toward what I get out of anything. I've been writing and producing parenting-related content for a very long time. I've written a book, produced podcasts, posted thousands of blog entries and, based on the comments that I usually get back, the content I create is read as a source of entertainment, sometimes information, but rarely raises the kind of vitriol that it did for you.

The post about being sick wasn't all about me being sick. The point was that being sick as a parent sucks. We (as a collective whole) don't usually have time to recover. We have to plow through. You, however, got stuck on the fact that my wife and I have a part-time nanny (and, I assume created a picture in your head of high-society, Hollywood living - NOTHING could be further from the truth).

As some of the other comments also pointed out - don't read the blogs if you don't want to. By bailing on the discussion boards - you don't hurt me. You hurt yourself (as you clearly have a passion for this site and the discussions, which is good) and you hurt whomever you might be able to help with your comments. What struck me about your comments was that you made this personal, when the real issue (as stated previously) is really about the location of the blogs.

The "blog culture" is growing. I've been part of it for a long time (and I must have been doing it reasonably well for Parent Education to invite me to blog for this site).

That being said: I do love the phrase, "inane prattle about the inconsequential minutiae of your life," however. I'll be using that as the title of my autobiography, and I'll be sure to thank you in the credits. But, I would offer this: I don't think that ANY action is inconsequential. Everything we do has some kind of consequence: good, bad or indifferent.

Finally, let me ask you a question right back: Aren't the message boards a similar "airing of one's private life in public?" Isn't asking for help on naming a baby, or how to stop a teenager from breaking up a marriage (or discussions on sex) just a different version of said "airing?" I don't know. (And what if my postings WERE about what you consider to be important? Then, they'd simply be long-form discussion topics.) Something to think about.

I’m not here to [filtered word] anybody off. I’m here to write about my life as a dad. It’s what I was asked to do and what I’ll continue to do. I love writing, so, it’s a true pleasure for me. If the blogs are being posted in the wrong place – fine, we’ll change that. But, really, please don’t bail on the site just because of some functionality issues. And, please don’t suppose that you know anything about me simply because you’ve read three or four posts. Attack what I say, if you have a major problem, but not who you think I am.

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gail

I wonder if it would be possible to put up a short message to the effect that we should each consider, just before we hit "Post comment" if what we intend to say meets the T H I N K test.  That little "Edit" button has been useful for me, though I maybe should have used it more than I have. 

  The T H I N K test?  I learned it as a child, (before the last ice age) THINK before you speak, is it True, is it Helpful, is it Important, is it Necessary, is it Kind?  Things don't have to be any of the five before they are said, but the questions should be considered.

   If it is true and necessary, then try to make it helpful and kind.  Important?  Everybody's ideas are important,  if only as evidence that they are thinking, but we really are a community of strangers, you can't let these things get under your skin.

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Todd Lieman

I think this whole thread is incredibly healthy and useful, actually. It's great for the FamilyEducation folk to see what the users want, etc. It's a great focus group. Nobody is under my skin and I don't think I'm under Junie's. I think that the system is under her skin. Everyone is getting the chance to say their piece and make their peace. That's the value in such forums (with which I know you agree, or you wouldn't be here!)