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Jen123

WWJD? Would Jesus Spank?

Never!

"It's better for someone to have a heavy stone tied around his neck and thrown into the sea than for that person to offend one of these little children."

- Jesus Christ

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That is what he thought about someone hurting a child.

"People are not for hitting, and children are people too."



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junieg

I am totally against spanking but why are we dragging jesus into these discussions. I find this offensive. We are not all christians.

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Jen123

There are many religious people out there and they use the "spare the rod" quote at the mere mention of spanking...   I was simply stating Jesus was against any type of violence towards children.  Personally, I believe the world would be a better place without religion and if the bible was never written.  So many people don't think for themselves and take the bible as if God wrote it, versus the truth...  which is it was written by men. 

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Fundy

Of course Jesus would do what the Word of God (Bible)says, and that is chastising from a standpoint of love.  

The Bible says - Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him." - Proverbs 22:15 

and again,

"Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die." - Proverbs 23:13 

And this from Jesus Himself: "As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent." - Revelation 3:19

The Apostle Paul said, "If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? " - Hebrews 12:7

The answer is loud and clear.  Yes Jesus would spank.

 

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mbm30075

The main ingredient missing in so many of these debates is the question of the motivating principal behind spanking. Yes, it's true that the Bible can CLEARLY be shown to not only endorse spanking, but one could reasonably argue a responsibility to do so. The previous poster put up many verses to this effect, and I won't belabor the point, but it is very, very clear from scripture that pain is involved in the process of maturing, whether it is physical, emotional or spiritual maturation. Also, the entire idea behind all biblical discipline is that a little pain now will save a lot of pain later. THAT is the corporal punishment scripture supports.

What so many anti-spanking advocates see is that there are, in fact, many parents who are out of control when they use corporal punishment. This cannot be argued against. Also, there are a lot of examples today of the parents of previous generations that thought beating/abusing a child was a fair expression of physical discipline. This couldn't be further from the truth, and they were absolutely, dead wrong. That is NOT the discipline that scripture supports.

There is a logical tension between the two ideas of not offending one of the little children and being held responsible by God to raise a child properly. Fortunately, there is a middle ground. That middle ground is discipline, corporal/physical or not, that is applied wisely, with good knowledge of the child, and with an eye to improving the child through training rather than merely serving the selfish ends of getting them to stop annoying behavior. Blindly beating a kid every time he/she annoys you does not meet these criteria. Knowing your child, knowing the situation, and knowing what form of discipline/punishment fits the current situation is vital to disciplining a child in a manner pleasing to God.

With that said, any and all discipline must be done with the utmost care and cautiousness, because God will demand an accounting of the life he entrusted with us.

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PDeverit

The Bible and Slavey:

"The Oracular Decisions of God have positively declared that the Slave-Trade is intrinsically good and licit, [and that the holding of slaves] is perfectly consonant to the principles of the Law of Nature, the Mosaic Dispensation, and the Christian Law"

-Charles Jared Ingersolls African Slavery in America

Reasons not to hit ("spank") your (rather God's) child:

Plain Talk About Spanking
http://nospank.net/pt2009.htm

The Sexual Dangers of Spanking Children
http://www.nospank.net/sexdngrs.htm

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PDeverit

Christians who don't feel Jesus would hit a kid:

Christians For Non-Violent Parenting

Parenting in Jesus' Footsteps
- www.parentinginjesusfootsteps.org

Desmond M. Tutu, Archbishop Emeritus

United Methodist Church: (UMC General Conference, May 3, 2004, resolution rejecting corporal punishment by parents and caretakers)

The list keeps going, but seriously, it's like Abraham Lincoln ( a non-spanker by the way) said:

"When I do good, I feel good. When I do wrong I feel wrong and that is my religion"

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tamz

Junieg -

Some people are Christians and if we want to pose a question about what Jesus would do, then we have the right to do so. It's too bad that you are offended, but understand that many of us have been offended by discussions here. As long as we respect each other, we should be able to pose a question about Jesus, spanking or many many other topics.

I have benefitted from some of the answers about whether Jesus would spank a child or not. If you are offended, don't participate in this particular post.

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junieg

Hey Tamz, check the date on my post. About two years ago and now you are pointing out that I don't have the right to give an opinion on this claptrap. I am not offended, but do have the right to voice that opinion. Give me a shout in another two years if you have a problem.

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tamz

J -

My apologies on the timing of my response and of course you have a right to voice your opinion - we all do.

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2xstepmom

I nanny for a Jewish couple who NEVER physically dicipline their children. After reading this thread, I plan to ask them if their decision is based on religion.

Being brought up in a household where striking was the norm I made the decision at a young age not to hit my own children. My children and I talked things out and they learned from the many discussions. I personally cannot think of any reason to hit a child. Children are so defenseless and deserve to be respected and taught right from wrong by our example and love, not by having pain inflicted by someone who has been entrusted to keep them safe from harm.

What I find ironic is that those who spank/strike their children would have someone else arrested for doing the same thing to the child. What I ask people when this comes up in discussion is if they would hit a child who is not their own for the same infractions. The reply is always that they would not. But, people have the right to raise their children however they want so I try not to get offended but do feel so sorry for the children who are being physically and emotionally hurt in the name of dicipline.