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bethalyn76

7th grader behavior/homework issues

My son is in 7th grade.  We have had numerous notes from the teachers saying he doesn't bring his work and/or books to class.  We have a planner that he writes his assignments in everyday and the teacher initials it.  We started this because he didn't do a weeks worth of homework and has 5 zeros in math as a result.  He was grounded and over the weekend he had to do all 5 assisgnments in addition to his normal homework.  The math ended up being a total of 180 problems.  I sat down with him and we went over the problems that he missed.  Today at school he was supposed to meet with the teacher during lunch and turn the work in.  He still didn't turn the assignments in!  I thought this weekend would have made an impact on him, but evidently it didn't.  Grounding him does not seem to make a difference.  We are in constant contact with his teachers, we review his grades online.  I'm not sure what to do from here.



Jdevries's picture
Jdevries

Hey!Thats pretty bad!What you should do is ground him or talk to his teacher about him!

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bethalyn76

His teacher had agreed to let him meet during lunch to go over the assignments.  He said that he didn't want to miss eating lunch with his friends.  We have a meeting scheduled this week with all of his teachers and the shool counselor.  He is grounded to his room and  we have given him extra chores around the house while he is grounded... I am hoping that he will figure out that doing the work is a lot easier than being grounded, getting into trouble, and having extra chores.  He loves to play outside with his friends (baseball, football, fishing).  He is a sweet kid.  I just don't believe he is taking responsibility for his actions.  When he gets in trouble, he gets resentful.  I don't think he is getting the fact that these are the consequences for HIS behavior even though we explain it to him.  Maybe it's hormones?  Thanks for the response.  It's nice to know that there are other parents struggling too.

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katie_13

im in 7th grade to and i sometimes forget my books but its no excuse to leave all your books does your child have a locker if he does he needs to go up to all of his teachers and ask what all he needs

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chriscnaz

I have a 10th grader, 8th grader and 6th grader, not turning in homework even when it's completed is a lot more common than you might think!

First off try and figure out how he organizes himself and his schoolwork, many kids this age have not been taught organization and study skills, he may be being punished for something he doesn't undertand how to do better.  As strange as it sounds, I have found it to be true with both my AFHD child and non ADHD child ( I'm not suggesting he is ADHD, just explaining it happens to everyone).

  • Does he have a homework folder or one place where he keeps all assignments?
  • Does he have a consist time or place to turn assignments in? ( Teacher's in-basket, begining or end of class) or does he just have to remember in general terms?
  • Would a sticky note or list of what he needs to do that day help?  I'm a list person, even as an adult and parent, if it's not on a list somewhere I won't remember to do it ( That's why Franklin Covy and Dayrunner make so much money)

Ask him what he  is willing to do and what he is willing to work for.  Incentives or a combination of incentives and punishment usually work better than punishment alone.

  • If he does not turn homework in he has to stay in at lunch the next day and miss time with friends, vs if he turns homework in every day for a week he gets something special on the weekend ( extra TV or game time, fast food lunch have him tell you what he would like to earn)
  • Ask if there is a reason he's not turning it in, is he being teased for being a goody-two-shoes, teacher's pet, etc by peers who don't turn it in?  Is he struggling with the work and doesn't want anyone to know or figures if he doesn't turn it in, he won't get bad grades?  ( Sounds strange but is the thought process at that age)
  • Has a teacher inadvertantly criticized him or embarrassed him in front of his peers?  Is he upset with the teacher, justified or not.

As with most parenting issues it's trial and error, what works for one doesn't work for all.  Threatening and punishment may be very effective for some but others respond in opposite ways, which it sounds like what he is doing.  Negotiate a deal with him, make sure you hold up your end, and hold him accountable for his.

Just remember most kids do not try to fail, when they are struggling there is  usually a reason behind it, they may not want to tell you, or they may not truly understand it themselves.

 

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gail Hanson

I  noticed, with my own kids and with others I have tutored, that in the beginning failure to turn in work is often because the child doesn't know how to do the work.  If this persists for long, it becomes a habit.  Then it becomes part of the child's self-image.  If it gets to this point it is REALLY HARD to change it. 

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elizam

this problem reached a head with my ds when he was in 7th and 8th grade. He did not respond well to punishments, humiliation, etc. The teachers were big on that. No pencil? Take a zero on the day's work and be put out into the hall to be isolated and mocked by classmates and passersby. Etc. Etc. He was severely depressed by midyear both years!

 

We finally got him evaluated for ADHD. Sure enough, he has it and has had it since he was little, but we sort of avoided the issues involved by homeschooling him in elementary. He really wanted to go to public school, though, so we had to do something for him, poor kid. Being told he was lazy and irresponsible did nothing except tear down his self esteem and drive hm towards the wrong crowd (the other "dumb" kids, as he puts it)

 

He is doing somewhat better in high school, though he has his good days and bad days. He does not have a locker, which is a blessing in disguise. That's how he used to lose and forget so many things. His school now is overcroweded, thus the shortage of lockers. Trying to get him to remember to write in a planner is almost impossible. I haven't figured that one out yet! Plus he can't write fast enough to get things down.

But there is always hope. Just don't let him give up on himself. Mine acted so ugly at taht age, but he acting better now. He has nicer teachers also, which makes a huge difference.

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rambaby

I think you should talk to your son about why he's not turning it in. Maybe he is having a problem with something or someone at school or home. If this is the case maybe you should try to resolve this issue with him and not the teachers. He could be havng bully problems or getting picked on by his friends by you calling the teacher or the teacher talking to him so often. You should tell him that he REALLY needs to get his homework turned in and if something is bothering him then you're welcome to talk to him any time. (or me cause I'm in the 7th grade too)

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LMcAbee

chriscnaz says it very well. I had the same problem with my oldest son when he was 9 - 11 now 17. I never figured out why though. However i have a 14 yr old also and i know she has issues like chriscnaz says.....

Is someone or has someone made fun of them? Are they having a hard time and dont want anyone to know? Has the teacher said something on purpose or accidentally to belittle your son?

Yes there should be consequesces but try to figure out what the problem is because if there is a real problem then punishment without understanding will just make it worse.

Good luck I have been there and still am.

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Synergy

There's always a reason why a kid doesn't do well in school. Have you tried talking with him about what's really bothering him that's effecting his performance in school? There may be something he's not telling you.

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SingleDad714

I am a single dad with 6th and 7th grade children. My 6th grader is in advanced classes and the school band and loves to do homework. My 7th grader refuses to do his homework. This is a carryover from last year. It was the same story. After reading this discussion thread I see most have answered with simple suggestions but nothing concrete. Just to go through the list of what has been done so far, here it is:
1. both kids have ADD.
2. both kids are in therapy and see a psychiatrist for their medication.
3. They are both monitored very closely for the effectiveness of the medication.
4. Both had I.E.P.s but tested out of eligibility for the program. Their IQ and perceived ability was to high. Both had issues with output. My 6th grader got the message and got busy. My 7th grader became resentful.
5. They both now have 504 Plans in place providing for assistance where it is helpful to them, die to the ADD.
6. Systems of checks and balances have been implemented with each teacher, including daily phone calls, emails, and signatures.
7. Groundings, detentions, other discipline has come into play.
8. Issues with bullying have been dealt with.
9. Everything has been done and still my 7th grader refuses to do homework and lies about it.

So here's the big question....... NOW WHAT? What do you do when it's not "something else going on"? What do you do when the child simply refuses to do it because they don't see the value in it? What do you do when the child doesn't care about the consequences of not doing the work?